{"id":58222,"date":"2016-11-30T08:31:39","date_gmt":"2016-11-30T12:31:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/?p=58222"},"modified":"2016-11-30T08:40:54","modified_gmt":"2016-11-30T12:40:54","slug":"58222","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/?p=58222","title":{"rendered":"TULSI MEETS TRUMP: Neocons and their perpetual wars trashed"},"content":{"rendered":"<header class=\"entry-header c2-12 offset1\">\n<div class=\"author-time\">\n<h2>Tulsi Gabbard\u2019s screw-the-neocons meeting with Trump sparks anger, derision, encouragement<!--more--><\/h2>\n<p>Philip Weiss<br \/>\nMONDOWEISS<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/header>\n<div id=\"attachment_58226\" style=\"width: 650px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/160228-tulsi-gabbard-mn-1040_23f4be54d4cba554b6968a396625d6db.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-58226\" class=\"wp-image-58226 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/160228-tulsi-gabbard-mn-1040_23f4be54d4cba554b6968a396625d6db.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000-1024x681.jpg\" alt=\"160228-tulsi-gabbard-mn-1040_23f4be54d4cba554b6968a396625d6db-nbcnews-ux-2880-1000\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/160228-tulsi-gabbard-mn-1040_23f4be54d4cba554b6968a396625d6db.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/160228-tulsi-gabbard-mn-1040_23f4be54d4cba554b6968a396625d6db.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/160228-tulsi-gabbard-mn-1040_23f4be54d4cba554b6968a396625d6db.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/160228-tulsi-gabbard-mn-1040_23f4be54d4cba554b6968a396625d6db.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg 1503w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-58226\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">HI Rep. Tulsi Gabbard<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"entry-content c2-8\">\n<div id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479912952481_216558\" class=\"body undoreset\" tabindex=\"0\">\n<div id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479912952481_216579\" class=\"email-wrapped\">\n<div id=\"yiv0737891132\">\n<div id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479912952481_216578\">\n<div class=\"yiv0737891132moz-cite-prefix\">\n<p class=\"sizeable\">During his round of interviewing potential job applicants, Donald Trump had one meeting with a Democratic politician:\u00a0Hawaii Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, a\u00a0leading antiwar figure, an Iraq war veteran and Bernie Sanders ally and former rising star in the party.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">The Monday meeting is important because of what Gabbard said about foreign policy: screw the neoconservatives and dump the idea of regime change in Syria, which Hillary Clinton had supported.\u00a0The meeting thus contains seeds of ideological convergence between the antiwar left and right. It has been read as misguided, tragic, or hopeful\u2013 depending on the observer\u2019s point of view. Here\u2019s a short tour.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">First off, Gabbard filed <a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/medium.com\/@TulsiGabbard\/my-meeting-with-donald-trump-dadffadf36b5#.35bezq854\">her own report, titled <\/a>\u201cMy\u00a0<a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/medium.com\/@TulsiGabbard\/my-meeting-with-donald-trump-dadffadf36b5#.c090jqk0n\">meeting with Donald Trump.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0She said the meeting was all about Syria; and she called out the neoconservatives and others advocating intervention.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p sizeable\">This was an opportunity to advocate for peace\u200a\u2014\u200aand I felt it was important to take the opportunity to meet with the President-elect to counteract neocons\u2019 steady drumbeats of war, which threaten to drag us into an escalation of the war to overthrow the Syrian government.<\/p>\n<p id=\"6375\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p sizeable\">This war has already cost hundreds of thousands of lives and forced millions of refugees to flee their homes in search of safety for themselves and their families. It has also strengthened al-Qaeda and other violent, extremist groups in the region. It would have been irresponsible not to accept this invitation. I feel it is my duty to take every single opportunity I get to advocate for peace, no matter the circumstances of those meetings.<\/p>\n<p id=\"a65f\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p sizeable\">I shared with him my grave concerns that escalating the war in Syria by implementing a so-called no fly\/safe zone would be disastrous for the Syrian people, our country, and the world. It would lead to more death and suffering, exacerbate the refugee crisis, strengthen ISIS and al-Qaeda and bring us into a direct conflict with Russia\u2013potentially resulting in a nuclear war. We discussed my bill to end our country\u2019s illegal war to overthrow the Syrian government and the need to focus our precious resources on rebuilding our own country, and on defeating al-Qaeda, ISIS, and other terrorist groups who pose a threat to the American people.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">The New York Times <a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2016\/11\/21\/us\/politics\/donald-trump-transition.html?_r=0\">published a report that characterized Gabbard as defensive and delusional<\/a>.\u00a0\u201cThe report was slanted and pejorative, in a way so easy to penetrate you wonder if they\u2019ve lost their wits,\u201d David Bromwich writes. \u201cHow deeply she has offended against the new Cold War consensus.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">Bromwich revised the Times piece by putting its prejudicial phrasing in double brackets, and including his amendments and commentary in boldface:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"sizeable\"><a id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479999801934_109166\" class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/urldefense.proofpoint.com\/v2\/url?u=http-3A__www.nytimes.com_2015_11_29_us_politics_tulsi-2Dgabbard-2Drising-2Ddemocratic-2Dstar-2Dfrom-2Dhawaii-2Dmakes-2Dmark-2Don-2Dparty-2Dby-2Ddefying-2Dit.html&amp;d=CwMDaQ&amp;c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&amp;r=ZfSH4e09KeIICiMbI2UxXWYZlvoureR2hh6t_VLt3G4&amp;m=BOeqiQjP6C72e0oFj8YoeXSUB_KBnL3lIDAYdF2ERPk&amp;s=_oOAlERSJ1F8hwRMi58eZSKYBSUkUq7UZ1N92p1Lgto&amp;e=\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" shape=\"rect\">Ms. Gabbard<\/a>, an Iraq war veteran [[and former Bernie Sanders supporter]] <b id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479999801934_109170\">whose endorsement of Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton partly stemmed from her rejection of Clinton\u2019s interventionist foreign policy,<\/b> [[<u>defended <\/u>her visit Monday to the office of the president-elect, saying she needed]]<b id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479999801934_109177\"> said that she felt it was imperative<\/b> to talk foreign policy with Mr. Trump \u201cbefore the drumbeats of war that neocons have been beating drag us into an escalation of the war to overthrow the Syrian government.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"yiv9255252711m_1881518730573815344story-body-text yiv9255252711m_1881518730573815344story-content sizeable\">Her statement [[,lengthy and <u>somewhat defensive<\/u>, <u>allowed<\/u>,]]<b>\u00a0<\/b><b id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479999801934_109183\">went out of its way to answer\u00a0<\/b><b>anticipated criticism from party loyalists: <\/b>\u201cWhile the rules of political expediency would say I should have refused to meet with President-elect Trump, I never have and never will play politics with American and Syrian lives.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479999801934_111053\" class=\"yiv9255252711story-body-text yiv9255252711story-content\">She then made the case against any intervention in a war that has [[pulled in Russia and left hundreds of thousands slaughtered.]]<b><u> <\/u><\/b><b id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479999801934_111052\"><u id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479999801934_111051\">NB: The Times is drawing a syntactical connection between Russia and the slaughter whose victims came mostly beforehand and from other causes\u2026.<\/u><\/b><\/div>\n<blockquote id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479999801934_111049\" class=\"yiv9255252711story-quote yiv9255252711story-content\"><\/blockquote>\n<div id=\"yui_3_16_0_1_1479999801934_111044\" class=\"yiv9255252711story-body-text yiv9255252711story-content\">Her case is a break from the position that her fellow Democrat, Hillary Clinton, campaigned on. It [[fits nicely with Mr. Trump\u2019s reluctance to engage]] <strong>fits nicely with Mr. Trump\u2019s reluctance to continue and expand the slaughter<\/strong>\u2014 and with warnings against American involvement from the president of Russia, Vladimir V. Putin.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">\nJonathan Tasini, former Sanders surrogate, <a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/jonathantasini\/status\/800800445601968128\">slammed Gabbard<\/a> for normalizing Trump\u2019s bigotry and racism.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content sizeable\" data-para-count=\"250\" data-total-count=\"3571\">Neoconservative Bill Kristol at first had <a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/BillKristol\/status\/800766049088053249\">a hopeful reading<\/a>\u00a0of the meeting:\u00a0\u201cTulsi Gabbard for VA?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content sizeable\" data-para-count=\"250\" data-total-count=\"3571\">Then when reports came out he reversed course and had a similar take to the Times. Not very happy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content sizeable\" data-para-count=\"250\" data-total-count=\"3571\">He added, \u201cBecause listening to the drumbeats of peace has worked out so well in Syria.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content sizeable\" data-para-count=\"250\" data-total-count=\"3571\">Robert Parry, the former AP reporter and realist, had a hopeful reading of the meeting, <a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/consortiumnews.com\/2016\/11\/21\/trumps-tulsi-gabbard-factor\/\">at Consortium News<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content sizeable\" data-para-count=\"250\" data-total-count=\"3571\">By inviting in Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, a Democrat hostile to \u201cregime change\u201d wars, President-elect Trump may be signaling a major break with Republican neocon orthodoxy and a big shake-up of the U.S. foreign policy establishment<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">Parry revisited Gabbard\u2019s antiwar rise:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">She starred in one of the strongest <a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7QEy0mxfFaM&amp;feature=youtu.be\"><u>political ads<\/u><\/a> of the campaign, a message to Hawaiians, called \u201cThe Cost of War.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">\u201cBernie Sanders voted against the Iraq War,\u201d Gabbard says. \u201cHe understands the cost of war, that that cost is continued when our veterans come home. Bernie Sanders will defend our country and take the trillions of dollars that are spent on these interventionist, regime change, unnecessary wars and invest it here at home.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">In the ad, Gabbard threw down the gauntlet to the neocons and their liberal-hawk sidekicks, by accusing them of wasting trillions of dollars \u201con these interventionist, regime change, unnecessary wars.\u201d Her comments mesh closely with Trump\u2019s own perspective\u2026<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">Parry said that Hillary Clinton might well have appointed Victoria Nuland as Secretary of State, Nuland whose husband Robert Kagan was one of the neoconservatives who flocked to Clinton. And he reads even Trump\u2019s Mike Flynn national security adviser nod as a hopeful departure from a policy of drone attacks.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">Taking on this Saudi-Israel nexus has long been regarded as political suicide, given Israel\u2019s extraordinary lobbying power and Saudi Arabia\u2019s exceptional wealth. But Trump may be assembling a team that is \u201ccrazy\u201d enough to take on that mission.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">So, while the fight over the future of U.S. foreign policy is far from over \u2013 the neocons will surely flex their muscles at the major think tanks, on the op-ed pages and inside the halls of Congress \u2013 the Trump transition is showing some creativity in assembling a national security team that may go in a very different direction.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">Here is more on Gabbard\u2019s track record,<a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/politics\/congress\/why-democratic-rep-tulsi-gabbard-met-donald-trump-n686976\"> from NBC<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">Gabbard abruptly resigned her spot as vice-chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee in February to<a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/meet-the-press\/video\/tulsi-gabbard-resigns-as-dnc-vice-chair-endorses-sanders-633022019772\"> endorse<\/a> Sen. Bernie Sanders for president, accusing party leaders of rigging the presidential primary process for its eventual nominee, Hillary Clinton\u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">Tim Vandeveer, a Sanders supporter elected this year as chairman of the Hawaii Democratic Party, defended Gabbard\u2019s decision [to meet with Trump].<\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">\u201cGiven the reality that we\u2019re facing now with President-elect Trump, and an administration that we\u2019ve already seen is going to lean heavily on neoconservatives who are going to rattle the sabers of war, I think it\u2019s a good idea for Democrats to engage and stand up for our values<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">She\u2019s also a surfer, who is proud of her Polynesian heritage. From her twitter feed:<\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Screen-Shot-2016-11-30-at-7.37.01-AM.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-58229\" src=\"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Screen-Shot-2016-11-30-at-7.37.01-AM.png\" alt=\"screen-shot-2016-11-30-at-7-37-01-am\" width=\"592\" height=\"616\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Screen-Shot-2016-11-30-at-7.37.01-AM.png 592w, https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Screen-Shot-2016-11-30-at-7.37.01-AM-288x300.png 288w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 592px) 100vw, 592px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">\u00a0<a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/Politics\/democratic-rep-tulsi-gabbard-consideration-trump-cabinet\/story?id=43696303\">CNN reported<\/a> that Gabbard was under consideration for Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense. The NYT\u00a0<a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/www.staradvertiser.com\/2016\/11\/21\/breaking-news\/gabbard-meeting-with-trump-for-job-in-administration-reports-say\/\">said she was <\/a>under consideration for Ambassador to the U.N.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sizeable\"><a class=\"sizeable\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/TulsiGabbard\/status\/800894067496419328\">Gabbard<\/a>\u00a0dismissed the speculation:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"sizeable\">I did not meet with President-elect Trump seeking a job, nor did he offer me one.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p>___<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/mondoweiss.net\/2016\/11\/gabbards-neocons-encouragement\/#sthash.2VEwxtm1.dpuf\">http:\/\/mondoweiss.net\/2016\/11\/gabbards-neocons-encouragement\/#sthash.2VEwxtm1.dpuf<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tulsi Gabbard\u2019s screw-the-neocons meeting with Trump sparks anger, derision, encouragement<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-58222","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58222","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=58222"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58222\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=58222"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=58222"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=58222"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}