{"id":49196,"date":"2016-09-15T15:15:36","date_gmt":"2016-09-15T19:15:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/?p=49196"},"modified":"2016-09-15T15:15:36","modified_gmt":"2016-09-15T19:15:36","slug":"evaluating-the-rally-how-long-to-get-to-10000oz-jeff-nielson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/?p=49196","title":{"rendered":"Evaluating The \u201cRally\u201d: How Long To Get To $10,000\/oz? &#8211; Jeff Nielson"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--more--><a href=\"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/985db158075a9e4561eebd8ec2903056.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-49197\" src=\"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/985db158075a9e4561eebd8ec2903056.jpg\" alt=\"985db158075a9e4561eebd8ec2903056\" width=\"650\" height=\"487\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/985db158075a9e4561eebd8ec2903056.jpg 710w, https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/985db158075a9e4561eebd8ec2903056-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"posted-by\">By Jeff Nielson<br \/>\nSPROTT MONEY<\/span><\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a \u201crally\u201d in the gold market right now, and (to a lesser extent) in silver. We\u2019re told this by the mainstream media \u2013 in between its salvos of gold-bashing. Sadly, we have also seen this parroted by numerous Alternative Media commentators. So let\u2019s examine this \u201crally\u201d yet again.<\/p>\n<p>The rally started almost precisely on the first day of the year (nothing suspicious about that). In the 8 \u00bd months since then, the price of gold has risen by roughly $250, or a little below $30\/month. For convenience, let\u2019s say that the price has been advancing by about $1 per day.<\/p>\n<p>For the sake of argument, let\u2019s pretend that this <em>is<\/em> a real rally, and see how long it would take to reach any rational price targets. Let\u2019s start with a big target: <strong>a fair and rational price for gold \u2013 today <\/strong>. A <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/silver-commentary\/26595-1000oz-for-silver-today-a-starting-point\">previous commentary <\/a> pegged that fair price at $10,000\/oz, calculated in relation to a fair price for silver, today: $1,000\/oz. The 10:1 price ratio between the two metals (rather than the historic ratio of 15:1) is based upon the fact that most of the world\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/silver-commentary\/26662-thirty-years-of-silver-supply-deficits\">silver stockpiles <\/a> have been literally consumed, thus the <em>supply ratio<\/em> between gold and silver has not been this low in at least 500 years.<\/p>\n<p>How long would it take the price of gold to get to $10,000\/oz, with the price advancing by $1\/day? With the price differential between the current price ($1325\/oz US) and the fair price for gold a little less than $8,700, it would take a little less than 8,700 days for the market to reach that price level. The \u201crally\u201d in the gold market would have to continue for <strong>roughly 25 years<\/strong>, just for the price of gold to reach a level which it should already be at \u2013 today.<\/p>\n<p>Some readers will find this metric unconvincing. They have been deluged with mainstream media propaganda for so long that they cannot even conceive of a fair price for gold. So let\u2019s move to a lower target.<\/p>\n<p>Gold is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/gold-commentary\/26709-gold-and-silver-as-monetary-metals\">a monetary metal <\/a>. As such its price <u>must<\/u> precisely reflect changes in the monetary base. Between 2009 and 2014; the Federal Reserve <em>quintupled<\/em> the U.S. monetary base \u2013 the infamous <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/images\/monetarybase_fredgraphjuly13.png\">Bernanke Helicopter Drop <\/a>. At the time the Helicopter Drop began, the price of gold was at roughly $800\/oz. Thus if we ignore all of the other positive fundamentals of the gold market, and we pretend that the price of gold at the end of 2008 ($800\/oz) was a fair price, the price of gold had to rise to at least $4,000\/oz, by the end of 2014.<\/p>\n<p>Of course the Federal Reserve\u2019s conjuring of mountains of funny-money is only one of many positive fundamentals for the gold market. The price of $800\/oz at the end of 2008 was <em>not<\/em> a fair price. It was absurdly low, due to the serial price-manipulation of which all informed readers are very familiar. Thus a price for gold of $4,000\/oz \u2013 at the end of 2014 \u2013 would also have been absurdly low.<\/p>\n<p>How long would it take for the price of gold to reach this low, 2014 price-target, at the pathetic pace of today\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sprottmoney.com\/blog\/precious-metals-markets-being-set-up-for-crash-jeff-nielson.html\">Fake Rally <\/a>? We\u2019re now dealing with a price differential of a little less than $2,700, meaning a little less than 2,700 days to reach a somewhat fair price for gold \u2013 in 2014. Eight more years. It would take nearly <em>eight more years<\/em> of this pseudo-rally for the price of gold to reach an absurdly low price target, which it should have already hit, in 2014.<\/p>\n<p>This would make the total length of this hypothetical rally a little over 8 \u00bd years, with the price advancing from a sub-$1,100\/oz price up to $4,000 \u2013 a total move of roughly 370%. Now let\u2019s compare this to the ten-year bull market from 2001 to 2011. During that period, the price of gold moved from roughly $300\/oz to nearly $2,000\/oz. That\u2019s a move of approximately 670%, and this significant advance in price came despite the fact that the manipulation of the price of gold was, in some respects, more extreme during those years than what we see today.<\/p>\n<p>Back then, Western central banks were still pounding the market with their <em>official <\/em>gold-dumping: 500 tonnes per year. But Western central banks have long since <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/gold-commentary\/26632-the-u-s-s-vampire-gold-it-evaporates-when-exposed-to-sunlight\">run out of gold <\/a> to dump, and now central banks in other parts of the world having been buying gold \u2013 at a pace not seen in more than 30 years. The 500 tonnes per year of gold-dumping has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/gold-commentary\/26084-central-banks-buying-gold-for-no-reason\">nearly been reversed <\/a>, a positive differential of nearly 1,000 tonnes per year in supply\/demand fundamentals.<\/p>\n<p>Along with that major shift in supply\/demand fundamentals, we have had the emergence of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/gold-commentary\/26305-chinas-golden-feast-on-western-folly\">China<\/a> as another mammoth gold market \u2013 on par with India \u2013 and another gigantic source of demand: in excess of 1,000 tonnes per year. Those are just the largest shifts in supply\/demand fundamentals, and have resulted in a large, structural supply-deficit emerging in the gold market.<\/p>\n<p>As already noted, we have also seen Western central banks since embark upon a new, unprecedented era of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sprottmoney.com\/blog\/the-federal-reserves-cycle-of-monetary-insanity-and-treason-jeff-nielson.html\">money-printing insanity <\/a>, another price-driver which did not even exist for most of the 2001 \u2013 11 bull-run. Thus, for numerous reasons, the price of gold would have to rise at a much, much faster pace during any legitimate rally today than it did during the previous 10-year bull market. Instead, we see prices advancing at little more than <em>half<\/em> that pace. Impossible.<\/p>\n<p>Still, even this analysis, with an extremely modest price target, will be too great a stretch for the minds of some readers. These readers have been brainwashed with anti-gold propaganda for so many years that they can barely even conceive the price of gold reaching a new, nominal high. Note that in <em>real<\/em> dollars, the price of gold would have to rise to well over $3,000\/oz \u2013 just to equal the <em>1980<\/em>-high in the price of gold. But let\u2019s stick with phony, nominal numbers.<\/p>\n<p>How long would it take the price of gold to merely equal the 2011 nominal high of just below $2,000\/oz? It would take nearly two more years. This would make it a total \u201crally\u201d of more than 3 \u00bd years to take gold from its sub-$1,100 price level at the end of 2015 to get back to a previous (and ridiculously low) nominal high.<\/p>\n<p>Understand the context here. With precious metals having been subjected to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/silver-commentary\/12786-fifty-years-of-suppressing-silver\">decades<\/a> of the most-extreme price manipulation in the history of commodity markets, this translates into precious metals having the \u201cmost bullish\u201d fundamentals of any commodity market in the history of human commerce. The gold market should be \u201cstronger\u201d today than other commodity market in the history of human commerce \u2013 except for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/silver-commentary\/26700-the-pathetic-price-of-silver\">the silver market <\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It doesn\u2019t take such markets 3 \u00bd years of \u201crallying\u201d just to reach a <em>previous<\/em>, nominal high. Three-and-a-half months would be more than a sufficient time horizon. If there was even the faintest hint of legitimacy to this Fake Rally, the price of gold would not have been advancing at a laughable rate of $1\/day. It would be leaping higher at an average rate of between $10 &#8211; $20 per day, if not much more than that.<\/p>\n<p>The fact that rational, even intelligent people could consider this managed advance in the price of gold to be a \u201crally\u201d is a credit to the success of the propaganda from the Corporate media and the bankers themselves. When we see the propagandists coming up with their own price-targets for gold, what sort of numbers are we seeing?<\/p>\n<p>Are we seeing predictions of $10,000\/oz? Are we seeing predictions of $4,000\/oz? Are we even seeing predictions of a paltry advance to $2,000\/oz? No. The most enthusiastic \u201cgold bulls\u201d among the bankers and media talking-heads are predicting that the price of gold could \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2016\/07\/08\/gold-to-1500-one-bank-is-ahead-of-the-rest-with-its-bet-on-bullion.html\">some day <\/a> \u2013 reach $1,500\/oz.<\/p>\n<p>This is one of the key elements in anti-gold and anti-silver propaganda: never presenting even quasi-realistic numbers as price-targets for gold and silver. The propagandists pretend that the maximum, future price for gold (and silver) is only some microscopic fraction of where the price should be already, today. To be precise, the propaganda machine <em>almost<\/em> never publishes any quasi-realistic numbers for the price of gold.<\/p>\n<p>A <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/gold-commentary\/26712-why-gold-isn-t-2-000-oz-the-propaganda-machine-speaks\">recent commentary <\/a> focused upon a rare lapse in the propaganda strategy: a mainstream talking-head <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kitco.com\/news\/2016-09-02\/Why-Is-Gold-Not-At-2-000-oz-Macquarie.html\">asking the question <\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why Is Gold Not At $2,000\/oz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Why has the price of gold not already equaled (and surpassed) the ridiculous, nominal, previous high that we saw back in 2011? As was explained in that commentary, the propagandists <em>have no answer<\/em> to this question. The \u201creasons\u201d which were given were analyzed, one by one, as being nothing but infantile nonsense. There <em>is<\/em> no reason why the price of gold has not already passed the pathetic price threshold of $2,000\/oz (USD).<\/p>\n<p>Yet, today, we are 8 \u00bd months into a rally where we\u2019re told that, if everything goes well, the price of gold might eventually rise to $1,500\/oz. A fantasy world. Readers know this world as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sprottmoney.com\/news\/the-wonderland-matrix-jeff-nielson-sprott-money-news\">the Wonderland Matrix <\/a>. Supply\/demand fundamentals don\u2019t count with respect to precious metals. Monetary fundamentals don\u2019t count. What does count?<\/p>\n<p>Again we descend into a realm of utter nonsense. According to the bankers and their media prostitutes, whether or not the price of gold makes it to the \u2018elevated\u2019 level of $1,500\/oz is totally dependent on whether or not the Federal Reserve raises its <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/gold-commentary\/26697-fomc-meetings-are-irrelevant\">benchmark interest rate <\/a> from 0.25% to 0.50%. Insanity!<\/p>\n<p>Ultra-low interest rates are supposedly rocket fuel for precious metals, based upon the bankers\u2019 own propaganda. Supposedly, all the years where the price of gold was languishing at absurd levels, this was because \u201cgold pays no interest\u201d, while the bankers\u2019 fraudulent paper currencies did. Now these fraudulent paper currencies pay no interest, indeed, our criminalized interest rates are now moving into <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sprottmoney.com\/blog\/negative-interest-rates-are-illegal-jeff-nielson.html\">negative numbers <\/a> \u2013 and still we see the price of gold only creeping higher at the rate of $1\/day.<\/p>\n<p>There is no rally in precious metals. There never was. Instead, we have the bankers engaged in a (modest) upward price-fixing operation, setting gold and silver up for a severe take-down, as a part of the banking <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sprottmoney.com\/news\/the-one-bank-revisited-jeff-nielson\">Crime Syndicate\u2019s <\/a> strategy for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/us-commentary\/26696-the-next-crash-prelude\">\u201cthe Next Crash\u201d<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It is <em>after<\/em> this manufactured Crash that we will see a real rally in precious metals, just as we had a real (but abbreviated) rally after the Crash of \u201908. Note the differences in parameters. Precious metals prices are even more suppressed today than at the end of 2008. Precious metals fundamentals today are much, much more bullish than at the end of 2008. The economic carnage which will result from the Next Crash must be much more severe than the Crash of \u201908 \u2013 creating much more <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bullionbullscanada.com\/index.php\/commentary\/gold-commentary\/26608-the-real-safe-haven\">\u201csafe haven\u201d <\/a> demand. A <em>real<\/em> rally in precious metals would (will) be the Mother of All Rallies.<\/p>\n<p>Why do so many people consider the current, tiny upward movement in the price of gold to be a \u201crally\u201d? Because after years and years of hard-core brainwashing, these people no longer even know what a real rally would look like.<\/p>\n<p>___<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sprottmoney.com\/blog\/evaluating-the-rally-how-long-to-get-to-10000-oz-jeff-nielson.html\">http:\/\/www.sprottmoney.com\/blog\/evaluating-the-rally-how-long-to-get-to-10000-oz-jeff-nielson.html<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-49196","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49196","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=49196"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49196\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=49196"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=49196"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=49196"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}