{"id":24729,"date":"2015-10-30T16:40:35","date_gmt":"2015-10-30T20:40:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/?p=24729"},"modified":"2015-10-30T16:40:35","modified_gmt":"2015-10-30T20:40:35","slug":"republicans-expose-the-media-manipulation-of-the-electoral-process","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/?p=24729","title":{"rendered":"Republicans Expose The Media Manipulation Of The Electoral Process"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2><b>The 5 big confrontations between CNBC moderators and GOP candidates<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">By Amber Phillips<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">At this point in the campaign, Republican debate moderators should have a healthy understanding that they&#8217;re one exchange away from being dragged into the debate themselves. (See: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=0CB0QFjAAahUKEwjtzOme4ebIAhXH2D4KHRrWBJ8&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fthe-fix%2Fwp%2F2015%2F08%2F07%2Fwho-is-megyn-kelly-the-woman-on-the-receiving-end-of-donald-trumps-ire%2F&amp;usg=AFQjCNHV9GUt7zrXAlIMj6bUGORqvkG68w&amp;sig2=JKKrFkU8odTCxdLIb3wB3Q&amp;bvm=bv.106130839,d.cWw\"><span class=\"s2\">Kelly, Megyn<\/span><\/a>.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Candidates at Wednesday&#8217;s CNBC debate in Boulder, Colo., seemed\u00a0extra anxious\u00a0to go after their questioners \u2014\u00a0so much so that clashing with the moderators became a\u00a0major theme of the debate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Debate watchers on social media <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/the-fix\/wp\/2015\/10\/28\/cnbcs-really-bad-debate-night\/\"><span class=\"s2\">rightly criticized<\/span><\/a> CNBC&#8217;s moderators for some of their questions and for not being able to rein in\u00a0candidates when they went out of bounds,\u00a0either on time or substance. But, at times, the\u00a02016 hopefuls on stage seemed to pounce on the moderators with little reason or disputed some facts that\u00a0weren&#8217;t exactly in their favor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The arguments were often left unsolved as the moderators tried their best to, well, moderate and keep the debate moving on.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Here are five instances of candidates sparring with the moderators, along with (hopefully) some clarity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>1. Carson vs. &#8220;propaganda&#8221;<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">One of the first moderator\/candidate showdowns of the night came when CNBC moderator Carl Quintanilla asked Ben Carson about his decade-long relationship with Mannatech, a nutritional supplement company that made dubious (and litigated) health claims.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Carson denied his involvement, explaining away his photo on the company&#8217;s Web site\u00a0as &#8220;total propaganda.&#8221; Oh yeah, and he did a few speeches for them and takes the product (which he endorsed on-stage). But that&#8217;s it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Quintanilla pressed him. &#8220;Does that not speak to your vetting process or judgment?&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">At this point, the audience jumped to the soft-spoken Carson&#8217;s rescue, booing Quintanilla loudly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8220;See?&#8221; Carson said. &#8220;They know.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The follow-up wasn&#8217;t a great moment for Quintanilla. He might have been better focused on the substance of Carson&#8217;s connections to the company, which are\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/washwire\/2015\/10\/08\/a-mystery-in-ben-carsons-ties-with-supplement-maker-mannatech\/\"><span class=\"s2\">much more complicated<\/span><\/a>\u00a0than Carson let on.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>2. Cruz vs. the clock<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s3\">Cruz criticizes the debate moderators<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p4\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Play Video<\/b>1:00<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p5\"><span class=\"s1\">Speaking at CNBC&#8217;s main debate in Boulder, Colo., Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) put the spotlight on the debate moderators saying their questions illustrated why the American people don&#8217;t trust the media. (CNBC)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">When it was Sen. Ted Cruz&#8217;s (R-Tex.) turn to answer a direct question \u2014\u00a0about the debt ceiling \u2014 he\u00a0first had some grievances\u00a0to air about the debate itself. Cruz felt the moderators were too busy pitting the candidates against one another and talking about the horse race rather than\u00a0asking questions about serious\u00a0policy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8220;The men and women on this stage have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than any participant in the Democratic debate,&#8221;\u00a0Cruz said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">It was, as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/politics\/carson-takes-front-runner-role-from-trump-ahead-of-gop-debate\/2015\/10\/28\/07e38066-7d83-11e5-b575-d8dcfedb4ea1_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop_b\"><span class=\"s2\">The Post&#8217;s David Fahrenthold and Abby Phillip note,<\/span><\/a> one of the most reliable attack lines in a candidate&#8217;s debate portfolio: Attack the moderators for asking the wrong questions. And it definitely got Cruz\u00a0big applause.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The problem? Cruz left no time in his takedown of\u00a0the debate&#8217;s apparent lack of substance to actually comment on\u00a0a question that was, well, substantive.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Quintanilla noted that Cruz had not answered that question about the debt ceiling, but Cruz continued to attack the moderators. By\u00a0the end of the exchange, his time was up, and he was not allotted more time to answer the specific question.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>3. Trump vs. his own words<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Another candidate-vs.-fact moment came when moderator Becky Quick asked Trump why his immigration plan criticizes Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, calling him Sen. Marco Rubio&#8217;s (R-Fla.) &#8220;personal senator.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Trump responded with a classic politician denial: &#8220;I never said that.&#8221; Quick apologized.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Except that Trump <i>did<\/i> say that. As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/wonkblog\/wp\/2015\/10\/28\/a-screenshot-from-his-web-site-reveals-donald-trumps-true-feelings-about-immigration\/\"><span class=\"s2\">The Washington Post&#8217;s Max Ehrenfreund points out<\/span><\/a>, a screen shot from Trump&#8217;s campaign Web site\u00a0reveals his white paper on immigration \u00a0is critical about the controversial program to allow visas for skilled immigrants, known as H-1B. It also criticizes Zuckerberg&#8217;s stance on the visa program. And it includes the &#8220;personal senator&#8221; language.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Trump&#8217;s apparent contradictions didn&#8217;t stop there. Ehrenfreund notes Trump appeared to praise\u00a0the program, despite what his Web site says.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8220;I am all in favor of keeping these talented people here, so they can go to work in Silicon Valley,&#8221; he said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>4. Rubio vs. John Harwood&#8217;s work<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Time for a drill-down into Rubio&#8217;s tax plan. Moderator John Harwood wanted to know why the nonpartisan Tax Foundation found Rubio&#8217;s tax plan gives more\u00a0after-tax gains to the top 1 percent than to middle-class Americans.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8220;Since you&#8217;re the champion of people living paycheck-to-paycheck, don&#8217;t you have that backward?&#8221; Harwood asked.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Rubio flatly insisted Harwood was wrong.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8220;You wrote a story on it, and you had to go back and correct it,&#8221; Rubio said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">It was Harwood&#8217;s turn to offer a stern\u00a0denial:\u00a0&#8220;No, I did not.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The situation quickly devolved into a he-said, he-said, with the audience applauding, apparently taking Rubio&#8217;s side.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">According to Politico, here&#8217;s what happened:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">Harwood <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/JohnJHarwood\/status\/654282664506036225\"><span class=\"s2\">posted a tweet<\/span><\/a> two weeks ago acknowledging an error in his comparison of how the richest and poorest would fare. That tweet circulated again during the debate, with calls from frustrated conservatives demanding that he correct the error on air. But on air, Harwood accurately compared benefits for the richest and middle classes &#8212; it was Rubio who chose to compare how the richest and poorest would do.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>5. Christie vs. &#8220;rude&#8221; moderators<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Toward the end of the debate, it seemed like a blow-up at a moderator could happen at any given moment, like when New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie was asked to explain his proposals on climate change.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">As candidates are wont to do, Christie started off with generalities. Harwood pressed him for specifics. Christie, who was already in attack mode after complaining about fantasy sports being a debate issue, went off on Harwood.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8220;Do you want me to answer or do you want me to answer?&#8221; Christie said. &#8220;Even in New Jersey, what you&#8217;re doing is rude.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">But if you look at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/the-fix\/wp\/2015\/10\/28\/the-third-republican-debate-annotating-the-transcript\/\"><span class=\"s2\">the transcript<\/span><\/a>, Christie seemed to be reverting to talking points and criticizing Democrats. Harwood was trying to get beyond that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Here&#8217;s the exchange. You can judge for yourself:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">HARWOOD: Governor Christie, you&#8217;ve said something that many in your party do not believe, which is that climate change is undeniable, that human activity contributes to it, and you said, quote: &#8220;The question is, what do we do to deal with it?&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">So what do we do?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">CHRISTIE: Well, first off, what we don&#8217;t do is do what Hillary Clinton and John Kerry and Barack Obama want us to do, which is their solution for everything, put more taxes on it, give more money to Washington, D.C., and then they will fix it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">Well, there is no evidence that they can fix anything in Washington, D.C.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">HARWOOD: What should we do?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">CHRISTIE: What we should do is to be investing in all types of energy, John, all types of energy. I&#8217;ve laid out&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">HARWOOD: You mean government?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">CHRISTIE: No, John. John, do you want me to answer or do you want to answer?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">(LAUGHTER)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">How are we going to do this?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">(APPLAUSE)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">Because, I&#8217;ve got to tell you the truth, even in New Jersey what you&#8217;re doing is called rude. So&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">(LAUGHTER)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">We&#8217;ve laid out a national energy plan that says that we should invest in all types of energy. I will tell you, you could win a bet at a bar tonight, since we&#8217;re talking about fantasy football, if you ask who the top three states in America are that produce solar energy: California and Arizona are easy, but number three is New Jersey.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">Why? Because we work with the private sector to make solar energy affordable and available to businesses and individuals in our state.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">We need to make sure that we do everything across all kinds of energy: natural gas, oil, absolutely. But also where it&#8217;s affordable, solar, wind in Iowa has become very affordable and it makes sense.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">That is the way we deal with global warming, climate change, or any of those problems, not through government intervention, not through government taxes, and for God&#8217;s sake, don&#8217;t send Washington another dime until they stop wasting the money they&#8217;re already sending there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p9\"><span class=\"s1\">HARWOOD: Thank you, Governor.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The 5 big confrontations between CNBC moderators and GOP candidates<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-24729","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24729","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=24729"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24729\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=24729"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=24729"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=24729"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}