{"id":104770,"date":"2018-09-27T08:41:33","date_gmt":"2018-09-27T12:41:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/?p=104770"},"modified":"2018-09-27T08:41:33","modified_gmt":"2018-09-27T12:41:33","slug":"what-did-accuser-deborah-ramirez-really-do-for-those-6-days-hunkered-down-with-her-lawyer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/?p=104770","title":{"rendered":"What did accuser Deborah Ramirez really do for those 6 days hunkered down with her lawyer?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1>The Six Days Of Deborah Ramirez<\/h1>\n<p><!--more-->By\u00a0<span class=\"author vcard\">ROD DREHER<br \/>\nThe American Conservative<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/news\/news-desk\/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez\">News tonight from\u00a0<em>The New Yorker<\/em>: a woman claims she was drunk at a college party with Brett Kavanaugh, who pulled his pants down and showed her his wing-wang:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The woman at the center of the story, Deborah Ramirez, who is fifty-three, attended Yale with Kavanaugh, where she studied sociology and psychology. Later, she spent years working for an organization that supports victims of domestic violence.\u00a0<em class=\"\">The New Yorker<\/em>\u00a0contacted Ramirez after learning of her possible involvement in an incident involving Kavanaugh. The allegation was conveyed to Democratic senators by a civil-rights lawyer. For Ramirez, the sudden attention has been unwelcome, and prompted difficult choices. She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with\u00a0<em class=\"\">The New Yorker<\/em>, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh\u2019s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away. Ramirez is now calling for the F.B.I. to investigate Kavanaugh\u2019s role in the incident. \u201cI would think an F.B.I. investigation would be warranted,\u201d she said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Kavanaugh says it\u2019s a lie. More from the magazine:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ramirez acknowledged that there are significant gaps in her memories of the evening, and that, if she ever presents her story to the F.B.I. or members of the Senate, she will inevitably be pressed on her motivation for coming forward after so many years, and questioned about her memory,\u00a0given her drinking at the party.<\/p>\n<p>And yet, after several days of considering the matter carefully, she said, \u201cI\u2019m confident about the pants coming up, and I\u2019m confident about Brett being there.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So the FBI is supposed to investigate whether or not a drunk college boy pulled down his pants at a drunken college party and exposed himself to a college girl who was so drunk that she can\u2019t clearly remember the event, and had to take\u00a0<em>six days<\/em>\u00a0to think about whether or not it actually happened? It was so devastatingly traumatic to her that she had to ponder for a week about whether or not it happened, and whether or not it was Brett Kavanaugh?<\/p>\n<p><em>This<\/em>\u00a0is what they\u2019re throwing at Brett Kavanaugh now? Even the\u00a0<em>New Yorker<\/em>\u00a0writes that it<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But the magazine published the story anyway, because hey, they have a nomination to stop. Disgraceful!<\/p>\n<p>I have never had strong feelings about Kavanaugh\u2019s nomination \u2014 I was an Amy Coney Barrett fan \u2014 but this is infuriating. They\u2019re destroying this man\u2019s reputation publicly, on the flimsiest of evidence.<\/p>\n<p>His nomination may go down. But this will not be forgotten.<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE:<\/strong>\u00a0And now, Stormy Daniels\u2019s lawyer weighs in:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">My e-mail of moments ago with Mike Davis, Chief Counsel for Nominations for U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary. We demand that this process be thorough, open and fair, which is what the American public deserves. It must not be rushed and evidence\/witnesses must not be hidden. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/11XLZJBTtY\">pic.twitter.com\/11XLZJBTtY<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Michael Avenatti (@MichaelAvenatti) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MichaelAvenatti\/status\/1044032678951960576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 24, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\">http:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE.2:\u00a0<\/strong>Reader Nate J:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Honestly, I don\u2019t see how American political culture comes back from this.<\/p>\n<p>I know it\u2019s fashionable for each side to argue that the other has \u201creached a new low\u201d over the latest political stunt, but this really feels like a \u201cCrossing the Rubicon\u201d moment. We cannot go back.<\/p>\n<p>I felt some apprehension about the Roy Moore debacle, but I guess I brushed it off because he was a weaker candidate and an obvious target for progressive scorn. This is different. This is a good man. A volunteer. A person who has worked diligently to study his craft. A devoted husband with a nice family. His wife served cupcakes to the paparazzi staking out his house, for cryinv out loud! If he cannot stand, who can?<\/p>\n<p>It seems to me that this story is awfully similar to the first: a politically active leftist suddenly remembers an event from over three decades ago, despite the fact that nobody else mentioned in the story has the faintest clue what she is talking about. Weak evidence stacked on weak evidence does not become strong evidence. This does NOT make Christine Ford\u2019s account (now refuted by all named witnesses and Brett Kavanaugh\u2019s calendar) more credible. Show trial plus show trial does not equal justice.<\/p>\n<p>The bitter struggle for power is all that is left. Terminal stage of the postmodern disease. I don\u2019t know where this all goes, but it\u2019s scary. I don\u2019t think anyone \u2014 left, right, or centre \u2014 could feel good about any of this right now. Chaos reigns.<\/p>\n<p>Not even the thought of Amy Coney Barrett swooping in to \u201csave the day\u201d for conservatives gives any comfort. I don\u2019t even believe one side could even \u201cwin\u201d right now, nor that any one person could salvage this.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>UPDATE.3:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Read this paragraph from the New York Times, then re-read it. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/6Qt4UnW4F2\">https:\/\/t.co\/6Qt4UnW4F2<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/ngigW5au5u\">pic.twitter.com\/ngigW5au5u<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Guy Benson (@guypbenson) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/guypbenson\/status\/1044076733450866688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 24, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>___<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theamericanconservative.com\/dreher\/six-days-of-deborah-ramirez-kavanaugh\/\">http:\/\/www.theamericanconservative.com\/dreher\/six-days-of-deborah-ramirez-kavanaugh\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Six Days Of Deborah Ramirez<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-104770","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/104770","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=104770"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/104770\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=104770"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=104770"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateofthenation2012.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=104770"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}